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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2

United States. Constitutional Convention · 1787-07-19 to 1787-09-17 (convention debates recorded; excerpts reflect entries in the official journal as presented here) primary

passage 140 of 266 · Act to which the States by their Legislatures, make themselves parties, becomes a compact from which no one of the parties can recede of itself. > act of the ordinary legislatures to be equally authentic, (62/65)

in brief
Sherman’s proposals for the Constitution restrict state interference in interstate land claims and enforce uniform U.S. commercial and revenue rules, while later amendments tighten jury trial location rules and define narrow grounds for suspending habeas corpus.

N. H. ay. C^t ay. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d ay. V^a ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

M^r Sherman moved to insert after the words "between Citizens of different States" the words, "between Citizens of the same State claiming lands under grants of different States"--according to the provision in the 9th Art: of the Confederation--which was agreed to nem: con:

Adjourned.

TUESDAY AUGUST 28 1787. IN CONVENTION

M^r Sherman from the Committee to whom were referred several propositions on the 25^{th} instant, made the following report:--

That there be inserted after the 4 clause of 7^{th}. section

"Nor shall any regulation of commerce or revenue give preference to the ports of one State over those of another, or oblige vessels bound to or from any State to enter clear or pay duties in another and all tonnage, duties, imposts & excises laid by the Legislature shall be uniform throughout the U. S."

Art XI Sect. 3, It was moved to strike out the words "it shall be appellate" to insert the words "the supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction,"--in order to prevent uncertainty whether "it" referred to the supreme Court, or to the Judicial power.

On the question

N. H. ay. Mas. ay. C^t ay. N. J. abs^t. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d no. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.

Sect. 4. was so amended nem. con: as to read "The trial of all crimes (except in cases of impeachment) shall be by jury, and such trial shall be held in the State where the said crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, then the trial shall be at such place or places as the Legislature may direct." The object of this amendment was to provide for trial by jury of offences committed out of any State.

M^r Pinkney urged the propriety of securing the benefit of the Habeas corpus in the most ample manner, moved "that it should not be suspended but on the most urgent occasions, & then only for a limited time not exceeding twelve months."

M^r Rutlidge was for declaring the Habeas Corpus inviolable. He did not conceive that a suspension could ever be necessary at the same time through all the States.

M^r Gov^r Morris moved that "The privilege of the writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended; unless where in cases of Rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it."

M^r Wilson doubted whether in any case a suspension could be necessary, as the discretion now exists with Judges, in most important cases to keep in Gaol or admit to Bail.

The first part of M^r Gov^r Morris' motion, to the word "unless" was agreed to nem: con:--on the remaining part;

N. H. ay. Mas. ay. C^t ay. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d ay. V^a ay. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. no.

Sec. 5. of art: XI. was agreed to nem: con.[43]

[43] The vote on this section as stated in the printed Journal is not unanimous: the statement here is probably the right one.--Madison's Note.

Art: XII being taken up.

M^r Wilson & M^r Sherman moved to insert after the words "coin money" the words "nor emit bills of credit, nor make any thing but gold & silver coin a tender in payment of debts" making these prohibitions absolute, instead of making the measures allowable (as in the XIII art:) with the consent of the Legislature of the U. S.

M^r Ghorum thought the purpose would be as well secured by the provisions of art: XIII which makes the consent of the Gen^l Legislature necessary, and that in that mode no opposition would be excited; whereas an absolute prohibition of paper money would rouse the most desperate opposition from its partizans.

M^r Sherman thought this a favorable crisis for crushing paper money. If the consent of the Legislature could authorize emissions of it, the friends of paper money would make every exertion to get into the Legislature in order to license it.

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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitut… · United States. Constitutional Convention · 1787